Fwd: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years
FYI ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:32 Subject: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years To: arin-ppml@arin.net <arin-ppml@arin.net> I believe these are relevant news to this list https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1790/text#toc-H3733... "IPv6 strategy made it into NDAA 2020, requiring DOD to sell 13 x /8s (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 10 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall sell all of the IPv4 addresses described in subsection (b) at fair market value." Finally is happening. I imagined that one day they would return something, but decided to sell. However, looking at the good side, this makes all this wasted space to become utilized. A few questions that arise are: how will this selling process happen, if directly, through brokers, if there will be any mechanism to distribute this selling among each one of all 5 RIRs or if it will be opened in the model "first come, first served" And before something says, I don't believe this will make any big difference to IPv6 implementation to advance or delay it significantly. Even talking about more than 200 million IPv4 addresses, I don't think this will change much this scenario if they are put directly at end users disposition. Finally, an important detail to highlight in the report is: "(D) *The plan of the Secretary to transition all Department addresses to IPv6.*" Let's see who will be the big buyers and how will this affect the IPv4 value for the next years. Regards Fernando Frediani _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.
Finally they will start selling the IPs, maybe AWS, GCP, Azure, Alibabacloud are interested. From: NLNOG <nlnog-bounces@nlnog.net> on behalf of Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> Date: Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 7:39 PM To: NLNOG <nlnog@nlnog.net> Subject: [NLNOG] Fwd: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years FYI ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani@gmail.com<mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com>> Date: Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:32 Subject: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years To: arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net> <arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>> I believe these are relevant news to this list https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1790/text#toc-H3733... "IPv6 strategy made it into NDAA 2020, requiring DOD to sell 13 x /8s (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 10 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall sell all of the IPv4 addresses described in subsection (b) at fair market value." Finally is happening. I imagined that one day they would return something, but decided to sell. However, looking at the good side, this makes all this wasted space to become utilized. A few questions that arise are: how will this selling process happen, if directly, through brokers, if there will be any mechanism to distribute this selling among each one of all 5 RIRs or if it will be opened in the model "first come, first served" And before something says, I don't believe this will make any big difference to IPv6 implementation to advance or delay it significantly. Even talking about more than 200 million IPv4 addresses, I don't think this will change much this scenario if they are put directly at end users disposition. Finally, an important detail to highlight in the report is: "(D) The plan of the Secretary to transition all Department addresses to IPv6." Let's see who will be the big buyers and how will this affect the IPv4 value for the next years. Regards Fernando Frediani _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net<mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net>). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact info@arin.net<mailto:info@arin.net> if you experience any issues.
With ~$15,= per IP-address that would by them roughly 26 F-35's, right? ;-) -- Marco Op 19-12-2019 om 12:38 schreef Job Snijders:
"IPv6 strategy made it into NDAA 2020, requiring DOD to sell 13 x /8s (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 10 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall sell all of the IPv4 addresses described in subsection (b) at fair market value."
Oh, het is weer van de baan.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 15:05:34 +0100 From: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> To: hostmaster@uneedus.com Cc: "arin-ppml@arin.net" <arin-ppml@arin.net> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19 Apparently it was in the House Bill, but was removed in the Senate version, and didn’t make it through conference. -Bill
Hi, Dat niet in de wet staat dat het moet zegt niet dat de DoD het niet mag doen. Zie 32CFR 273.7: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/32/273.7 De vraag is of ze het willen zonder dat ze gedwongen worden. Ik denk dat het logisch is; met de huidige druk om ipv6 uit te rollen denk ik dat de prijs voor v4 heel hard richting de top gaat, en vervolgens vanaf een cliff rolt en niks meer waard gaat zijn. Thanks, Sabri ----- On Dec 19, 2019, at 6:17 AM, Job Snijders job@ntt.net wrote:
Oh, het is weer van de baan..
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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 15:05:34 +0100 From: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> To: hostmaster@uneedus.com Cc: "arin-ppml@arin.net" <arin-ppml@arin.net> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years and need for ARIN-2019-19
Apparently it was in the House Bill, but was removed in the Senate version, and didn’t make it through conference.
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Hi, Interesting.. I would expect a selling action from an IBM of sorts, not a government agency. -S From: NLNOG <nlnog-bounces@nlnog.net> on behalf of Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> Date: Thursday, 19 December 2019 at 12:39 To: NLNOG <nlnog@nlnog.net> Subject: [NLNOG] Fwd: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years FYI ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani@gmail.com<mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com>> Date: Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:32 Subject: [arin-ppml] DoD to sell 13 x /8 of its IPv4 Blocks over the next 10 years To: arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net> <arin-ppml@arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net>> I believe these are relevant news to this list https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1790/text#toc-H3733... "IPv6 strategy made it into NDAA 2020, requiring DOD to sell 13 x /8s (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 10 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall sell all of the IPv4 addresses described in subsection (b) at fair market value." Finally is happening. I imagined that one day they would return something, but decided to sell. However, looking at the good side, this makes all this wasted space to become utilized. A few questions that arise are: how will this selling process happen, if directly, through brokers, if there will be any mechanism to distribute this selling among each one of all 5 RIRs or if it will be opened in the model "first come, first served" And before something says, I don't believe this will make any big difference to IPv6 implementation to advance or delay it significantly. Even talking about more than 200 million IPv4 addresses, I don't think this will change much this scenario if they are put directly at end users disposition. Finally, an important detail to highlight in the report is: "(D) The plan of the Secretary to transition all Department addresses to IPv6." Let's see who will be the big buyers and how will this affect the IPv4 value for the next years. Regards Fernando Frediani _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net<mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net>). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact info@arin.net<mailto:info@arin.net> if you experience any issues.
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Sebastiaan Koetsier